There is no accident that service and parts depts in new car dealerships is usually found directly behind the car salesmen and showrooms..
Planned Obsolescence?
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There are always marketing strategies involved in any company decisions like these, but we may not be privy to the full reasons when they seem to run counter to a sustainable business plan . It could be that there is a market share element to some of this. A company has new products being developed but they are still a few years out, while others may be beating them to the punch. By offering updates on their older products could cause people to update and wait instead of buying competitors newly introduced products.
happens everywhere all the time.
cars: buy an early C5 and find out the ECBM is NLA and you are reduced to as-is junk yard pulls
watches: apple watch 2015, no longer supported in 2018.
phones- spend 1K+ and wait 2 years. watch that battery fail.
and your house that works, then you decide to sell, then wait for ALL the code updates you need
to make.
and finally, the 1959 mono recording of that famous jazz musician has been sold to you in
electronically mastered stereo, in stereo, on cassettes, on 180 gram pure vinyl,
remastered CDs, remastered XRCD (from japan), remastered SACD, enhanced
1-bit download, enhanced and remastered 24/192 streaming, and let's not
forget the DVD, the Blu Ray, and the very special 4K.
cars: buy an early C5 and find out the ECBM is NLA and you are reduced to as-is junk yard pulls
watches: apple watch 2015, no longer supported in 2018.
phones- spend 1K+ and wait 2 years. watch that battery fail.
and your house that works, then you decide to sell, then wait for ALL the code updates you need
to make.
and finally, the 1959 mono recording of that famous jazz musician has been sold to you in
electronically mastered stereo, in stereo, on cassettes, on 180 gram pure vinyl,
remastered CDs, remastered XRCD (from japan), remastered SACD, enhanced
1-bit download, enhanced and remastered 24/192 streaming, and let's not
forget the DVD, the Blu Ray, and the very special 4K.
sqlsavior
Lunatic Member
Of course it is. At this point, it's sinister to have children.
just dave
vintage rules!
I don't have a problem with it in regards to an improvement like a newer model with better performance but to deliberately design something to fail is wrong. That's like a mechanic not fixing your car properly so you have to bring it back in a few months. Hey don't kill the job,right.
Please tell me I am being punked! So a car dealer should not have the service department behind the showroom?
But some lemmings HAVE to have the latest shit to show off so they line up to walk over the cliff no matter how a company treats them. The sad thing is that there is almost always another choice in the market.
sqlsavior
Lunatic Member
Do you suppose they'll slow down the music on these?
https://www.theatlantic.com/technol...s-probably-have-terrible-battery-life/585439/
I sure like my four-year-old MacBook Pro, and I can tolerate my iPhone6, but unless Apple does an about-face, I won't be buying replacements from them.
s-petersen
Scott
The end result is the same, if it fails and it is replaced too soon,or repaired too often, or it is unsupported by software too soon, you still feel cheated, and move on to another company.
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Scott75s1974
Well-Known Member
They messed up by not communicating what they were doing. But I found the slowed setting very helpful when my battery started fading. So much better than an unplanned shutdown. The shutdowns certainly would drive me to replace the phone more than the slowdown.
Slowing down CPU cycles isn't the same as delivering digital music.
My iPhone 8 has wonderful battery life. I have airpods, but have not experienced issues with them.
wu6fiend
Well-Known Member
I would like to say "Thank you" to poster "Lossless", that was indeed a very interesting documentary! While I was watching it, I was looking across the room at my Sony ES collection. All date from the late 1980s-early 1990s, and working as well as the day they were produced. Sadly though, perhaps due to planned obsolescence, the cd players will inevitably die one day, and cannot be fixed due to the fact their lasers are no longer available. Sad, for such beautifully designed consumer goods. I also thought about American cars in the 1950s-1960s, where every year manufacturers changed the styling, to prompt consumers to trade or sell their perfectly good vehicles in order to get the latest and greatest, all in a race to keep up with the Joneses. And finally, this afternoon I went shopping for printer ink, and noted that it is, more often than not, cheaper to buy a new printer, than to replace an expired ink cartridge.
biscuithead
Me likes the eargasm retroplasm...
Can’t agree more!
Sinister it is. When will we stop monitizing amorality, and venerating the quest for the dollar...?
quiet
Addicted Member
I don't mind buying something knowing it will soon be rendered obsolete by newer products but still performs the job "I" bought it to do. I anticipate this "planned obsolescence" part of the game.
But to outright fail due to "planned failure" is a different thing, and takes money out of my wallet.
I wonder what it would cost us to replace everything in the house every 5 years.
Yes, I would be pissed.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_humanoid
This is the reason stuff is built to fail , corporations are taking order form reptiles from space ??? Fallen angels , poltergeists? Haha
My used car is trash dealerships are evil.
My dads friend sold me a car burns all oil and has a blown head gasket, didn’t bring my uncle to inspect it got a 7k junker . 4k + repair cost which I cannot afford it cannot go on highways
We dont replace things that often because the market makes sure there are alternatives to almost any product we buy.
sqlsavior
Lunatic Member
And that's exactly what I do. Printers are loss-leaders for ink. HP, Brother, Epson, etc. are ink companies now. They get pretty devious about it, too.
Nothing lasts forever. Everything not made entirely of rock is likely to suffer deterioration at some point, and even stone can't be expected to stay intact for more than a few millennia without perfect storage conditions. 
It's more about how easy something is to repair if and when it eventually does break down. Something like a Model T or a tube radio/TV was generally expected to break down at some point, and was made to be (relatively) easy to fix using human hands and tools. A modern car or smartphone, on the other hand, is largely meant to be assembled by robots, and isn't built with repairmen in mind because, well, when it comes to consumer electronics, there just aren't many repair shops left, largely because electronic devices were refined to the point where they don't need to be repaired except in certain (relatively) rare circumstances. All we can do is preserve the older repair-friendly devices as best as we can, and do our best to learn how to repair them ourselves.
-Adam
It's more about how easy something is to repair if and when it eventually does break down. Something like a Model T or a tube radio/TV was generally expected to break down at some point, and was made to be (relatively) easy to fix using human hands and tools. A modern car or smartphone, on the other hand, is largely meant to be assembled by robots, and isn't built with repairmen in mind because, well, when it comes to consumer electronics, there just aren't many repair shops left, largely because electronic devices were refined to the point where they don't need to be repaired except in certain (relatively) rare circumstances. All we can do is preserve the older repair-friendly devices as best as we can, and do our best to learn how to repair them ourselves.-Adam