Denon DL 110 question

[leepal]

do these cartridges really reduce surface noise? I seem to get surface noise no matter what I've tried so far.

 

[HypnoToad]

Mine is less noisy than some others I tried, Goldring, Grado.

The best one is my Benz Micro Ace.

It depends on how much noise you are talking about, if a record is damaged no cart will remove the surface noise.

 

[jleon92f]

How long before the stylus wears out?

I have had mine for quite a few years.

Thanks,
John.

 

[deaner33]

I found that my DL-110 played a good bit of the surface noise on my records. If you are looking for something that doesn't play as much of the surface noise, look for a Hyper-elliptical, Line Contact or Shibata stylus. The go deeper in the grooves so there is less surface noise. I'm really impressed with my LP GEAR AT95HE that has a hyper-elliptical stylus & IMO is a bargain at $75.

 

[leepal]

I seem to get surface noise on new records and I'm sure I've got everything set up correctly, it happens on different TT's too. The ATN95HE sounds interesting, I already have the AT95E cartridge.

 

[jimreeves]

do these cartridges really reduce surface noise? I seem to get surface noise no matter what I've tried so far.

Not as much as the DL160 does. Different "special elliptical" stylus size between the two. I have both and there is a noticeable difference, though it isn't big.
If you get alot of surface noise with any cartidge and your records are clean there may be groove damage from previous stylii, assuming the records aren't new. Using a stylus tip that rides deeper can help so long as the lower grooves aren't filled up with crud.

 

[jimreeves]

How long before the stylus wears out?

I have had mine for quite a few years.

Thanks,
John.

Most of what I've read says about 500 hours.

 

[deaner33]

I seem to get surface noise on new records and I'm sure I've got everything set up correctly, it happens on different TT's too. The ATN95HE sounds interesting, I already have the AT95E cartridge.

As best as I can tell, LP Gear has someone make the HE stylus for them. They sell the stylus individually for a little bit less, so you might want to try it.

 

[jleon92f]

Most of what I've read says about 500 hours.

Thanks for the reply,:thmbsp:

John.

 

[PR Audio]

Have you played some of those LP's in someone else's system, as to eliminate the fact that your old needle might have marked some grooves.

 

[leepal]

Have you played some of those LP's in someone else's system, as to eliminate the fact that your old needle might have marked some grooves.

no, but I have two TT's, both of which have a new stylus. The surface noise, that slight crackling here and there, seems present on some new records too. Is it just unavoidable? I know this gets asked a lot, it's just frustrating when a new record does this and sometimes an old record from a thrift store doesn't.

 

[thedelihaus]

Most of what I've read says about 500 hours.

For the DL-110 or 160?

I was under the assumption a typical stylus gets 800-1000 hours on them.

It would be good to know if certain stylii are of shorter lifespan expectancy.:scratch2:

 

[erniejade]

For the DL-110 or 160?

I was under the assumption a typical stylus gets 800-1000 hours on them.

It would be good to know if certain stylii are of shorter lifespan expectancy.:scratch2:

I called Denon they said the same thing so you are correct. 800-1000

 

[beatcomber]

Not as much as the DL160 does. Different "special elliptical" stylus size between the two. I have both and there is a noticeable difference, though it isn't big.

The DL160 does a nice job of suppressing surface noise and pops. You can still hear them, but it gets shoved under the music.

 

[jsternbe]

How have you cleaned the records? Mine seems very unforgiving of any dust.

 

[majick47]

DL110 Question

I have a DL110 and a DL160, both are very quiet on playback. My LPs have been cleaned on a VPI 16.5 RCM with commercial fluids, I use a four step fluid process and they come out squeaky clean. Once the LP is on the TT platter the LP gets swept with a carbon fiber brush, the stylus is cleaned with a stylus brush and I apply Stylast conditioner to the stylus. Also I use a carbon fiber mat on top of the platter. A fair amount of preperation but the results are no static, also I'm guessing my DL110 will go an easy 1500 hours since I use Stylast conditioner on the stylus before each side of an LP is played. If your playing moderate to heavly scratched records with groove damage no amount of cleaning and accessories will make them play quietly.

 

[RickB]

If you haven't properly cleaned even brand new records you are hearing way more noise than you should...

Been there, done that, for nearly 40 years.....

 

[shimniok]

Most of what I've read says about 500 hours.

+1

Michael