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trinhsman

trinhsman

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I am going to try and be as careful as I can with this. I may end up getting banned, but I feel this needs to be said.

AK is now starting to run new members off. Sometimes it is from members commenting and treating the new member like they don’t know anything. The new member doesn’t have the experience and other members will comment in a way that turns the new member off.

But that is not the real issue now. What has started to happen lately is those in power will delete conversations a new member is having with a subscriber in a thread. The conversation is polite and respectful between the parties, yet the conversation will be deleted. This sometimes has been done with no explanation. The new member doesn’t know what happened, only that their conversation was deleted.

Now, this is not from me, but from another subscriber that reached out to me about this. I know how this subscriber feels because the same thing has happened to me, with the same person in power.

Regarding the matter I am talking about, I was copied a response in a PM from a subscriber regarding the new member. The new member stated they would no longer post and only look at posts. The new member was upset to say the least.

I hope someone in power will reach out to me via PM. I do not want to violate any obvious rules, but I do want to try and get some things addressed that several other subscribers, like myself have mentioned.

If this gets me banned, I want to say thank you to everyone on here for their kind words and “likes” over the past couple of years. Also a great big thank you to AK members Gordonw, and the great and dearly missed Marc Morin. Also, Avfan, Baco99, and many others I know I am forgetting.
 
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I don't think this is bannable material although your discussion of those in power is something that could draw attention.

Since you are trying to help ak and you are implying that those in power are running off new members, I'm sure those folks in power would like to discuss this with you outside of the forums. The mods are generally helpful and interested in the betterment of ak so one of them should reach out. If not, PM one of the ones you respect and have that private conversation. They may direct you to the correct person to talk to or discuss it with you. Either way the info will get into the back room of ak and should be helpful for those in power. There are a lot of mods, a board this big needs that and as with any group they are all individuals that do things differently. Discussing this privately should be a good way to let your concerns be known without violating the rule about commenting on the way the board is moderated.
 
trinhsman said:
But that is not the real issue now. What has started to happen lately is those in power will delete conversations a new member is having with a subscriber in a thread. The conversation is polite and respectful between the parties, yet the conversation will be deleted. This sometimes has been done with no explanation. The new member doesn’t know what happened, only that their conversation was deleted.
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I'm not aware of any of this happening, but I can't help but wonder if maybe an older member, who was banned for truly bad behavior, tried to login on a new name, and savvy admins recognized them. Maybe by IP addy or other means.
 
All of this primarily relates to a single person. I do not want to say more on this public thread. I do hope this can be addressed though. This is such a great site. I hate to see good people get treated the way I have seen happen over the past couple of months. Thanks for your response.
 
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I'm not aware of any of this happening, but I can't help but wonder if maybe an older member, who was banned for truly bad behavior, tried to login on a new name, and savvy admins recognized them. Maybe by IP addy or other means.
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I really don’t think so, based on what I read that was PM’d to me.
 
Thanks for your reply. I just hope we can get this fixed somewhat. A good discussion on things, as long as people are not being called names or stupid is good for people. It allows the exchange of ideas and opinions. I am smart enough to know you won’t change many peoples minds on some things, but as long as the discussion is civil and respectful, we are all learning things. I know this goes deeper than that, but it still boils down to being respectful and civil, and NOT stopping things because you don’t like the ideas being presented. We used to be able to do this. I hope we will be able to again.
 
trinhsman said:
I know this goes deeper than that, but it still boils down to being respectful and civil, and NOT stopping things because you don’t like the ideas being presented. We used to be able to do this. I hope we will be able to again.
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Thank for your courage to address this issue.
 
Granted I have not been here long (lurking for 3 months then wrote up my Intro piece) but this forum is really great and you should all commend yourselves for the wealth of information and nice back and forth as well.

Plus, any BBS with some many cat and dog avatars has got to be good.
 
Thats what the mods try to do. Keep the site friendly and open.
When folks complain about some members who may get a bit snippy after latenight sessions with a drink or two too many,
we try and reel them back in and clean up the attitudes. I personally am an early morning person who isn't here after 9PM or so -
other mods do the late night watch - but honestly, you have to tell us about these things so we can help.
Heck, I was a newcomer for a long time, and some folks aren't too keen on women with audio knowledge ...
Stick around a bit longer and give us a chance.
 
When threads are removed, it's usually because of a clear violation of rules by the original poster. In that case, I at least include a notification to the poster about why. Otherwise, it's usually individual posts that are removed, or an entire thread has gone so bad that it's not feasible to clean it up. If someone has contacted me with a polite message and I haven't responded, I simply missed it - send again.
 
Sorry but some folks do, in fact know almost nothing, or have many mis-conceptions and roll into AK. Many of us will try to steer you in the right directions, but some of the mis-conceptions are where the problem lies. The reaction to getting correct info which contradicts the preceptions from a newbe seem to be the problem. I have encountered some folks who needed to be educated, and I've stepped up to the task. Sorry if some have a childish reaction.
 
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