Cable coatings have a capacitance factor ..the capacitance changes over time ..
No memory required ..
Pretty easy to hear just hook a burned in cable and a fresh cable to opposite channels ..
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Alternative to canare 4s11 (bi wire)
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Cable coatings have a capacitance factor ..the capacitance changes over time ..
No memory required ..
Pretty easy to hear just hook a burned in cable and a fresh cable to opposite channels ..
I've experimented repeatedly with both s8, and sw11 in multiple equipment arrangements ...
4s8 lacks bass depth that the 4s11 provides ... the sw11 has a more natural balance. (likely due to 11ga wiring total instead of 16ga total)
4s11 sounds very, very good bi-wired in to a pair of Snell's I have with a single run of the cable, which uses each 16ga wire of the four wires separately ...
That's a small 8" 2 way speaker with a subwoofer so likely it wouldn't improve with a doubled pair of 4s11's, or so I presumed.
Now that I mentioned doubling the cable runs, I'm going to experiment with a doubled pair.
Enjoy the Music
Twisted input cables, being low level, benefit, but high-level speaker cables using twisted cables are inaudible.
Why It Is Often "Audiophoolery".
For most home setups, the "audible" difference is considered a myth or a placebo effect for several scientific reasons:
Why It Is Often "Audiophoolery".
For most home setups, the "audible" difference is considered a myth or a placebo effect for several scientific reasons:
- Low Impedance Advantage: Speakers are very low-impedance devices (typically 4–8 ohms). Any noise picked up from EMF would be too tiny in voltage to actually move the speaker driver and create audible sound.
- High Signal-to-Noise Ratio: Speaker wires carry high-power amplified signals. Unlike "interconnect" cables (like RCA), where a tiny bit of noise gets amplified later, any noise picked up by speaker wire stays at its original, microscopic level.
- Failed Blind Tests: Rigorous double-blind listening tests consistently fail to show that listeners can distinguish between twisted cables and standard parallel "zip cord" of the same gauge.
Laws of Physics ...
Signal level isn't relevant .. twisting the pairs cancels the EMF fields that any signal flow has to generate ...
Alexander Graham Bell discovered in 1888 that twisting the pairs of wires that lead in to his talking device improved the clarity of the voices ...
Enjoy the Music ..
And his talking devices were low level, milliamps, not high current speakers!
Signal level is very relevant!!!
Low level, yes, twisted works.
High level is inaudible.
Additionally, unless you’re in a known location with high EMF, you don’t need twisted RCA cables!!
How many here grew up without twisted cables and had no issues?
Raise your hands!!
Put your money in better quality speaker drivers!!
Signal level is very relevant!!!
Low level, yes, twisted works.
High level is inaudible.
Additionally, unless you’re in a known location with high EMF, you don’t need twisted RCA cables!!
How many here grew up without twisted cables and had no issues?
Raise your hands!!
Put your money in better quality speaker drivers!!
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Study ...
Electro magnetic interactions are inextricably interrelated ... one creates and interacts with the other ..
They're indivisble ..
Very simple test:
If RFI affects speaker cables, you will hear it with your system turned off.
If RFI affects speaker cables, you will hear it with your system turned off.
But aren't audible, unless you live under high tension power lines. And then a properly shielded RCA cable and properly grounded system can take care of it.
No need to worry about the high current carrying speaker wires.
@SaturationPt has made a great point.
Carpe Diem ..
What is or isn't audible may be affected by which of many ears is listening ... and maybe a few other variables there...
RFI isn't being referenced ..
And electro magnetic effects in an audio signal are by definition present, but not necessarily 100% measurable for audibility with anything other than an ear ..
Moving a wire in a magnetic field induces a potential for current flow. Current flowing in a wire creates a magnetic field.
Adjacent current flows interact with each other and induce electric potentials and magnetic fields in each other which modify the original flow..
Magnetic fields are laminar (straightline, flat) and when the wires are twisted the magnetic fields are folded in on themselves and thereby collapsed ..
Enjoy the Music ..
What is or isn't audible may be affected by which of many ears is listening ... and maybe a few other variables there...
RFI isn't being referenced ..
And electro magnetic effects in an audio signal are by definition present, but not necessarily 100% measurable for audibility with anything other than an ear ..
Moving a wire in a magnetic field induces a potential for current flow. Current flowing in a wire creates a magnetic field.
Adjacent current flows interact with each other and induce electric potentials and magnetic fields in each other which modify the original flow..
Magnetic fields are laminar (straightline, flat) and when the wires are twisted the magnetic fields are folded in on themselves and thereby collapsed ..
Enjoy the Music ..
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EZ Speakerz
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Mogami 12 gauge 4 wire speaker cables. They are better than an expensive set of Audioquest wires I bought used.
You'll need to add the bananas yourself
You'll need to add the bananas yourself
gasolin75
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Link doesn't work and W3104 is discontinued
Super expesnive
MOGAMI 3104 OFC Copper Speaker Cable 4x4.0mm² Ø 14.5mm - Audiophonics
The Mogami 3104 cable has been designed to provide high audio performance. It integrates 4 OFC Copper conductors with a cross-section of 4mm² (12AWG) and has an efficient PVC insulation.
www.audiophonics.fr
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