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I’m always looking to better my product, but sometimes those new things I think might improve it have the opposite effect. I think I have those new methods integrated, now. Making really good sourdough bread involves a lot more factors than one might think. Kinda like a good audio system. ;)

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I’m always looking to better my product, but sometimes those new things I think might improve it have the opposite effect. I think I have those new methods integrated, now. Making really good sourdough bread involves a lot more factors than one might think. Kinda like a good audio system. ;)

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Those are beautiful! I am curious, have you tried the no-knead bread recipe? Usually you let it age for 12-18 hours but the longer you age it the more it takes on the sour dough flavor. When I make bread it is my only method- so easy and it provides a very nice open crumb texture and a nice hard crust. A Dutch oven is the only must have to make it. The lid is removed in the last 15 minutes or so. Prior to that the closed lid traps the moisture which gives the nice hard crust. My guess is you probably already know all about this stuff.

P.S. What is the device just above the bread rack in the slide case?
 
Those are beautiful! I am curious, have you tried the no-knead bread recipe? Usually you let it age for 12-18 hours but the longer you age it the more it takes on the sour dough flavor. When I make bread it is my only method- so easy and it provides a very nice open crumb texture and a nice hard crust. A Dutch oven is the only must have to make it. The lid is removed in the last 15 minutes or so. Prior to that the closed lid traps the moisture which gives the nice hard crust. My guess is you probably already know all about this stuff.

P.S. What is the device just above the bread rack in the slide case?
I have to admit that I raised an eyebrow at the idea of no-knead sourdough bread, since building the gluten bonds is generally accepted as an important part of the process. Looking at a recipe for it at the King Arthur website though, I notice that it still calls for stretching and folding the dough a fair amount, even if they don’t technically call it kneading. I also use an 18-hour retarded rise so it does take two days, but I consider it worth the time & effort. We almost never buy bread.

A dutch oven will definitely work, but I use dedicated bread cloches, one set of earthenware and one set in cast iron. The iron ones are heavier castings than a dutch oven, probably to hold that high heat more effectively, and I do think they seal the humidity in better than the earthenware ones and give better results. The earthenware cloches seem to be more benign, though - less prone to scorch the bottom of the loaf at the high temps I use.

The device in the case is just a lame. It’s a good one made out of machined stainless steel, which I suppose is a little pretentious compared to the simple wooden handled ones used in bakeries, but I like the way the blade is held very securely by the knurled nut. I like good quality tools that I only have to buy once and this will last a lifetime.

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I've never tried my hand at sourdough, or any other type of 'regular' bread. I do make a mean banana bread, and date loaf though.
Realistically, I don’t recommend getting into sourdough bread making for anyone that isn’t pretty serious about it. Starter is a living critter - it has to be fed regularly (even if kept in the refrigerator) or it dies like anything else, and sourdough bread can be tricky. Once you figure out how to balance all the relevant factors it isn’t rocket science, but I made a lot of bricks in the process of learning.
 
My father who will be 97 in 6 days was a baker his entire life. Not sure how many 10's of thousands of bread he pulled out of the oven. I have all his books but they are all about huge batches, not much help to me but they do contain some of the science. He passed on to me the "want to" but less of the "how to" department.

This the the recipe I use for the no-knead bread. No-Knead Bread | The Bittman Project My Dutch oven might be as old as my dad, very thick very heavy.
 
Your dad is quite a resource. You’re lucky to still have his knowledge available. Unfortunately, I was self taught, which really means that I spent a lot of time reinventing the wheel. :rolleyes:

That Bittman project bread looks interesting. It’s not sourdough, since it uses commercial yeast, but it doesn’t use much and has a long fermentation to allow the flavor to develop. I may give it a try when I don’t want to have to invest the effort to make real sourdough, since I imagine it’s quite good. Thanks for the link. :thumbsup:
 
We make a no knead bread, similar to Bittmans.
6 1/2 C flour
3 C warm water
1 T yeast and 1 T salt.
Mix up a shaggy dough and let it rise all day.

Quite versatile. You can use AP flour, or 00 for pizza, or a mix of the 2.
We mostly use if for pizza, pinch off what we need and freeze the rest.
 
We make a no knead bread, similar to Bittmans.
6 1/2 C flour
3 C warm water
1 T yeast and 1 T salt.
Mix up a shaggy dough and let it rise all day.

Quite versatile. You can use AP flour, or 00 for pizza, or a mix of the 2.
We mostly use if for pizza, pinch off what we need and freeze the rest.
That is a large batch for sure. I’ve never thought about using it for pizza dough. I like it because of the very open crumb it produces along with the hard crust. However I have made a focaccia type flat bread with it.
 
Your dad is quite a resource. You’re lucky to still have his knowledge available. Unfortunately, I was self taught, which really means that I spent a lot of time reinventing the wheel. :rolleyes:

That Bittman project bread looks interesting. It’s not sourdough, since it uses commercial yeast, but it doesn’t use much and has a long fermentation to allow the flavor to develop. I may give it a try when I don’t want to have to invest the effort to make real sourdough, since I imagine it’s quite good. Thanks for the link. :thumbsup:
Have you ever used "dough enhancer"? I want to make Banh Mi buns and the recipe calls for it. Says it is a must to prevent deflation. Your thoughts? I ordered some just so I can follow the recipe to a T. But I also make a Scandinavian pastry dough for cinnamon rolls so it might help there too. Your thoughts?
 
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