Recieved my darTZeel NHB-108 copy from China

I came across this 'new' aliexpress amps myself a couple of days ago, I'm now stuck in the rabbit hole too.

I read a lot of experiences but basically most are all positive, doesn't really matter which version of the amp you buy, which makes it even harder to pick 1.

I saw the 'upgraded' version BC with Vishay caps, so I was wondering if those are really worth it. This version from Dartzeel doesn't come with those caps.
So i messaged the seller on Ali from ASYPDZSW shop, and he gave me this answer;

''Hello friend, I can accurately tell you that BC capacitors are the cheapest capacitors. Its price is 1/2 of ELNA capacitor. Which capacitor do you think is better? If you think D5 is better, please go to other stores to purchase D5. We find some ignorant buyer behavior ridiculous. You are willing to spend more money.''

I'm curious if the seller is telling the truth or if he is just trying to sell, hmm.

I myself got 804 matrix speakers with an old NAD 214 amp which i want to replace, and I am really leaning to this version. Or maybe i will go with a class A amp but i don't think there are good ones around the 500 a 600 mark.
Don't loose your head! You won't be dissapointed if buying the 'standard' D5Pro. It's a beast of an poweramplifier i can tell you. Paired with good speakers to your liking you will have a very high standard combination.
 
Don't loose your head! You won't be dissapointed if buying the 'standard' D5Pro. It's a beast of an poweramplifier i can tell you. Paired with good speakers to your liking you will have a very high standard combination.
I was thinking a lot about the D5Pro or the ASYPDZSW version but i've read a lot about high temperatures, which i don't really like tbh. I came across the Musmys E-406 but sadly not many reviews about that one. I did read it didn't run hot.

 
@musicforever … I’ve had both my D5Pro (it came with the blue vishay caps) and the C-2860+ and prefer it to the Cary SLP90 clone that I got too .. I’m finding with my speakers Klipsch Quartets (98db) that to get to 11 o’clock and beyond on the C-2860+ that using a pair of Rothwell attenuators is essential, I’m using the combination with a TT (Atmo Sfera High End Edition) CDP (Musical Fidelity A5 cdp) and Wiim Pro Plus .. it’s the best pre and amp sound wise I’ve owned and gives to my ears at least a highly emotional, engaging and enjoyable experience … how are you getting on with yours ?
Sorry for the late reply, been caught up with work. I am still a big fan of D5PRO BC & C 2860+, even though I also listen to T9.4 & Cary SLP 90, as well as the D class TPA 3255 Dual Mono from ZeroZone & JC 2 MAX preamp ... These are all gems! Pure listening pleasure, I keep changing between the 3 systems through a connection box for 4 amps and 2 sets of speakers (Paradigm Monitor 9v5 and Focal Cobalt 815). I gave up comparing them. I just enjoy the sound!
 
You’ve probably seen that Hifi zone put the Accuphase C 2860 + as his no2 behind the Cary SLP 90 clone by now ..anyway I’ve just got a great deal on the accuphase clone so I’ve ordered one so will come back when it’s been played with my NHB 108 clone … @musicforever did you get one in the end
Yeah, I did ... I think I like C 2860 + more than the Cary SLP 90 - but then again, it is probably just the difference between SS and tubes ... Cary SLP 90 is coupled with T 9.4 now in my music room
 
Yeah, I did ... I think I like C 2860 + more than the Cary SLP 90 - but then again, it is probably just the difference between SS and tubes ... Cary SLP 90 is coupled with T 9.4 now in my music room
How is the T9.4? Some users report the top end/treble being a little hot.
 
I have a Cary SLP-90 preamp set and a D5Pro. The depth and width of the stage are amazing. If you want to get the effect of the bass going down to hell and better resonance of the instruments, throw away the PSVANE tubes, which are "suitable for lighting up cabinets".
My tube set is 2x RCA 5963 from 56' and Toshiba 62'. If you install this set, it will tear you out of your shoes and you will not be able to tear yourself away from listening.
However, I am struggling with the problem of screaming vocals when I want to listen louder: above the 50 scale on the Cary SLP-90 preamp. Bands like AC/DC, JUDAS PRIEST, the vocals are unbearable.

I have read previous posts about replacing the speaker terminals in the D5PRO with rhodium-plated ones. It sounds a bit like audio Voodoo. Do you think that such a change would calm down the screaming vocals and the midrange? They were partially tamed to a more pleasant level thanks to the combination of tubes used, courtesy of my friend.

Additionally, my D5PRO heats up to 70 Celsius after just one hour of listening. I don't know if it's safe for it and whether to unscrew the top cover for better air circulation.

Additional note: my D5PRO requires 2-3 restarts to confirm readiness when the CARY SLP90 is connected. If I disconnect the preamplifier, and don't connect any other device to the RCA inputs, then it starts up on the first try. Is there anything I can do about it?
Same here with D5PRO BC and Cary ... But you need to start Cary SLP 90 first and turn on D5PRO after minimum 30s and that takes care of the issue

Also, 70 Celsius is a lot!

I lifted the top plate on M5-14 bolts for better ventilation, I usually see max 55 Celsius, and even so I am thinking about adding active cooling on the radiators!
 
Do I actually need to put a load on the D5 pro to burn it in, since it is so heavily biased into class A, or could I just use it as a small radiator and start listening in a few weeks?
 
Gemini already told me I would only be cooking the capacitors instead of breaking them in. I wonder where it got that. I also got a musical paradise MP 701 and some silver RCA's. So now I have a strange super smooth and dark yet sibilant sound .
 
That looks awesome! Which amplifiers are those? I see that you also have the A1 clone. I got 1 myself, curious how does is compare to those other beasts? :
 
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