Schiit Modi 3+ vs Mimir - Looking for Some Opinions


You don’t seem to understand how parametric eq works and how it’s different from the eq in the Lokius. They’re not the same animal by a long shot.

Schiit’s CEO, Jason Stoddard, as well as Forkbeard’s developer, who works for Schiit, have both been pretty open about the development process of Forkbeard and their goals for it in the long term. It’s proprietary technology that Schiit is deeply invested in, they’re the only ones who use it, although it’s complimentary technology to Bluetooth. Jason has also made oblique comments regarding licensing it for other companies to use. It’s not going anywhere in the foreseeable future and I expect them to do much more with it. You should read the thread on it on Head-Fi before you make further uninformed assumptions. Unless Schiit gets flushed into receivership, Forkbeard will likely outlast you geezers and the dusty old receivers you guys have hoarded in your basements, garages and living rooms.
Dude, don't take it so personal. Especially in the uninformed assumption and stereotypical judgement call of your last sentence. Be decent or don't be involved. This is just a hobby. Not a mission!
 
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You don’t seem to understand how parametric eq works and how it’s different from the eq in the Lokius. They’re not the same animal by a long shot.

Schiit’s CEO, Jason Stoddard, as well as Forkbeard’s developer, who works for Schiit, have both been pretty open about the development process of Forkbeard and their goals for it in the long term. It’s proprietary technology that Schiit is deeply invested in, they’re the only ones who use it, although it’s complimentary technology to Bluetooth. Jason has also made oblique comments regarding licensing it for other companies to use. It’s not going anywhere in the foreseeable future and I expect them to do much more with it. You should read the thread on it on Head-Fi before you make further uninformed assumptions. Unless Schiit gets flushed into receivership, Forkbeard will likely outlast you geezers and the dusty old receivers you guys have hoarded in your basements, garages and living rooms.
From what I've read, Forkbeard is the future and when Apple/Android change their programing, Schiit will change theirs to match and you'll be able to update it at home, so no worries about going all in on Forlbeard. I'm really starting to like it... I have it on my Wotan amp, Stjarna phono amp, and Mimir DAC, so good that it almost (but not quite) makes we want to buy another Freya+ with Forkbeard...
 
From what I've read, Forkbeard is the future and when Apple/Android change their programing, Schiit will change theirs to match and you'll be able to update it at home, so no worries about going all in on Forlbeard. I'm really starting to like it... I have it on my Wotan amp, Stjarna phono amp, and Mimir DAC, so good that it almost (but not quite) makes we want to buy another Freya+ with Forkbeard...
Thanks. I appreciate and your comment. So it sounds like there will be other products from Schiit incorporating the Forkbeard technology. Maybe that’s on the horizon with the next Bifrost. And maybe Schiit will knock one out of the park with it. But again thanks, I appreciate a post with useful content.
 
Thanks. I appreciate and your comment. So it sounds like there will be other products from Schiit incorporating the Forkbeard technology. Maybe that’s on the horizon with the next Bifrost. And maybe Schiit will knock one out of the park with it. But again thanks, I appreciate a post with useful content.
Martin, the guy who developed (on his own) what was to become Forkbeard, is now a Schiit employee. So, I feel Schiit and Forkbeard will coexist together for a long time to come...! :D
 
So, actually based on Gigantic's input on the Modi 5 basically being a Mimir w/o Forkbeard, it seems clear that's the route to go. The app just isn't appealing to my needs but, as I've said before, this is just my situation and it applies to no one else. For anyone interested, here's a link to another forum where this subject of this post was pretty much discussed. You might find it interesting:


At this point I think this post has served its purpose and should be put to bed. For the majority who responded with helpful and educational content, many thanks. Your words are greatly appreciated. For the others who were in the minority, have a good day - your words were a bit wasted.
 
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Personally, I prefer the term 'codger', as I fit all the descriptions, depending on my mood. ;)

"A codger is an informal term for an old man, often used to describe someone who is eccentric, humorous, or grumpy."
Thank you all, this has been helpful. I'm confused with all the DAC's available today. Fairly sure I'll get the Mimir with Forkbeard.
 
@ Quad, did you make a purchase/decision chet?

I too was on the fence between the Mimir, Modi 5, and the FiiO BR15 for a second setup…..

P.S.
Since making the transition to R2R five or so years ago, I hesitate to try another DS DAC, so went with the FiiO (only had it two days, so not a lot of time with it), so far I’m happy with my choice.
I really prefer the R2R sound.
 
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so maybe not 1:1. i bought the mimir to replace a modi 3e. i didn't need forkbeard. im zero eq.
it was a large difference between the 2 with the mimir being much more open with better detail all around. better dynamics.
the mimir and my brand spanking new freya+ play together very well. my soundstage is 3-4 ft wider it seems and 1-2 ft deeper, it feels.
very happy. i also rolled in a matched pair of kenrad 6sn7s for the gain stage, which are greatly better than the stock 6ns8s.
 
@ Quad, did you make a purchase/decision chet?

I too was on the fence between the Mimir, Modi 5, and the FiiO BR15 for a second setup…..

P.S.
Since making the transition to R2R five or so years ago, I hesitate to try another DS DAC, so went with the FiiO (only had it two days, so not a lot of time with it), so far I’m happy with my choice.
I really prefer the R2R sound.
My apologies for not getting back to you sooner. I haven't been on the forum for a couple weeks. I haven't bought a DAC yet, but this post served its purpose. Its the Modi 5 for me. The Mimir is described as sounding much the same, but I'm just not the customer for Forkbeard. However, I am also intrigued by R2R Dacs and may do some exploring there. Thanks for the question!
 
I have had a Modi 5 in my headphone system for about a month now. I’m using an RPi 4 running Ropieee as a streamer, USB into the Modi 5. I use the optional wall wart power supply with the Modi 5. Source is ROON and JRiver. Headphone amp is a McIntosh MHA 200 and phones are ZMF Atrium.

The Modi 5 is an outstanding DAC. It just sounds great. I recommend wholeheartedly and without reservation.

For $170 with the optional power supply and another $100 for the RPi you’ve got a great digital front end.
 
I've had my Mimir with Forkbeard for almost a month now and it does wondrous things to the sound of my BlueSound Node N130, especially with Tidal's high resolution files (many are 92K, quite a lot are 192K). The Forkbeard is a great addition and I like to turn on the loudness function when listening at low volumes.

It didn't really improve the sound of my Rotel CD-11 MKII, but Redbook CDs only play at 44.1K anyway, but with the Node the sound stage is much wider and deeper, while the vocals are pinpoint in the center, instruments are clearly separated... I love this little piece of Schiit !
Can I ask if you use USB for the Node to Mimir connection? If so does it power the Mimir or do you use the wall wart?
I'm considering a Mimir as an upgrade to my DAC.
Thanks
 
Can I ask if you use USB for the Node to Mimir connection? If so does it power the Mimir or do you use the wall wart?
I'm considering a Mimir as an upgrade to my DAC.
Thanks
I'm using a USB cable from the Node to the Mimir, and I am also using the Wall wart... it seems like the Mimir is getting most/all of its power via the USB. It is not as loud as when I tried it using a COAX cable to connect them.

From the Website:
Mimir also includes our own Unison 384™ USB input and unique Linear Override power supply, so you can run off the USB input for convenience—or plug in our external AC wall-wart to convert to a linear power supply with much higher voltage rails (and higher output).
 
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Update - I just snagged a silver case Modi 5 with wal-wart from Schiit's B Stock for a Franklin and a Grant. Some of you may have noticed my post on the Schiit Eitr 2. I'm likely going after one of those too and could opt for Forkbeard (I'm on the fence) with that; which will cost me another Franklin and Grant in that configuration. Without Forkbeard, the Eitr 2 is just a buck under a Franklin. But Frankly (pun intended), I'm curious how the Eitr 2 would affect the sound quality of my Modi 3+. I may put that up on another posting as soon as I pull the trigger on the Eitr 2. Thanks for all your comments!
 
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