STK-0050 replacement for SX-780 and others

@Aldure, in case you are perceiving too much resistance (hah!) here, I would like to say that I agree with you that 0.22 ohm emitter resistors are the natural choice for this application. (Even though I still think that the exact value is not worth worrying about.)

I fear this may sound condescending, but it is really, really not meant that way (and I don't think I am in a position to condescend anyway): I hope you'll continue to contribute to AK. For someone to take the trouble to explain their reasoning in such clear terms is a bit rare.
 
@Aldure, in case you are perceiving too much resistance (hah!) here, I would like to say that I agree with you that 0.22 ohm emitter resistors are the natural choice for this application. (Even though I still think that the exact value is not worth worrying about.)

I fear this may sound condescending, but it is really, really not meant that way (and I don't think I am in a position to condescend anyway): I hope you'll continue to contribute to AK. For someone to take the trouble to explain their reasoning in such clear terms is a bit rare.
Thanks, I appreciate that — and no offense taken at all.


I think we’re actually aligned: ~0.22 Ω is the natural choice for this specific STK-0050 / SX-780 application, and beyond that the exact value is more about design philosophy than absolutes.


My main goal was simply to keep the discussion grounded in the original STK context and documented design choices, not to argue fine theoretical points for their own sake.


I’m glad the explanation was useful, and I’ll definitely stick around and contribute where I can.
 
Since I’ve read in several threads that Liberty Electronics Store and Semitronus are supposed to sell good-quality STK modules, I decided to test this myself.


I ordered:


  • one STK0050 module from Liberty Electronics Store
  • one STK1050 module from Semitronus
  • and one STK1050 module from AliExpress

The Semitronus STK1050 has not arrived yet, but I couldn’t resist opening the modules that already arrived. So I disassembled the Liberty Electronics Store STK0050 and the AliExpress STK1050.


At first glance, both modules clearly appear to be low-quality Chinese reproductions, as is often the case. The output transistors are visibly poor in quality, and there is also a very obvious construction difference between the two modules:


On the AliExpress module, the copper heat spreader under the output transistors fully covers the solderable PCB area beneath it, which should at least improve thermal transfer.
The Liberty Electronics Store version, however, uses a noticeably smaller copper block.


As soon as the Semitronus STK1050 arrives, I will open that one as well.


So what is the actual goal of this test?


I’m going to make a video where these modules will be loaded at several power levels, going up to 50 W into 4 ohms, while monitoring the output waveform on an oscilloscope. Of course, this applies only to the modules that survive that long.


The STK1050 differs from the STK0050 mainly in that it should contain internal emitter resistors. However, as can be clearly seen, the AliExpress STK1050 does not include these emitter resistors at all.


These modules will be installed as-received into an Onkyo A-44 amplifier. The reason for this is simple: without opening the module, one must assume that it is equivalent to the original SANYO STK device, and that’s exactly how these parts are marketed—as drop-in replacements.


At the end of the tests, my own STK1050 replica modules will also be installed and tested, including operation at 100 W into 4 ohms.


I’m genuinely curious to see at what point these fake STK modules will fail—or explode.IMG_20260204_181314 (1).jpgIMG_20260206_204818.jpgIMG_20260206_204735.jpg
 
I guess it's been almost 10 years now since we started on this STK journey.
Interesting that you are still researching stk and showing them decapped.
Here's another one I came up with recently.
It's a lower power version of our original heatsink design. It survives a 4-ohm load with +/-50V supply using all Toshiba semis.
Measure SMPTE IMD at the amber 3501 residual of <90dB. Need to upgrade my test equipment :-)
Might be able to replace stk-0060,70,80? But they have a different mounting spacing and could use 200w onsemi.
Good enough for RocknRoll.
Enjoy
 

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I guess it's been almost 10 years now since we started on this STK journey.
Interesting that you are still researching stk and showing them decapped.
Here's another one I came up with recently.
It's a lower power version of our original heatsink design. It survives a 4-ohm load with +/-50V supply using all Toshiba semis.
Measure SMPTE IMD at the amber 3501 residual of <90dB. Need to upgrade my test equipment :-)
Might be able to replace stk-0060,70,80? But they have a different mounting spacing and could use 200w onsemi.
Good enough for RocknRoll.
Enjoy
Thanks for sharing this — that’s a very clean and sensible design.


It’s actually reassuring to hear that this STK journey really does go back almost a decade. That’s one of the reasons I think it’s still worth documenting what’s being sold today as “drop-in STK replacements,” especially now that many people assume these modules are equivalent to the original SANYO parts.


Your results at ±50 V into 4 ohms with Toshiba devices are impressive, especially the SMPTE IMD figure. Sub-90 dB residual on an Amber 3501 is nothing to dismiss at all — test equipment limits included


My motivation is slightly different, though. I’m intentionally testing current off-the-shelf STK clones as they are sold, without modification, in real amplifiers like the Onkyo A-44. The goal isn’t to prove that good STK-style designs are impossible — clearly they aren’t — but to show where modern commercial clones cut corners (especially missing emitter resistors, thermal design, and device matching).


Once that baseline is documented, I’ll be installing my own STK1050-style modules for comparison, including higher-power 4-ohm testing.


In any case, it’s great to see others who approached this from a proper engineering perspective rather than just “it works, ship it.”
Definitely still good enough for Rock’n’Roll — but it’s nice when it’s also good enough for the oscilloscope :)
 
I also use mass as an indication of authenticity. Here's a link to measurements for a pair of STK-0039s. I can't find the photos i took for the STK-0050s, but I recall that the real and 'reproduction' STK-0050s were about the same mass as the real/repro STK-0039s.
That’s a very good point — mass is definitely a useful first-order indicator, especially when the module is still sealed and you don’t want to disturb it.


I’ve seen the same STK-0039 thread before, and the weight difference there was quite telling. What’s interesting (and a bit deceptive) is exactly what you mention with the STK-0050: some reproductions manage to get very close in mass, even though the internal construction is clearly different once you open them.


That’s one of the reasons I decided to go beyond weight and do full decaps. Copper block size, substrate thickness, transistor die choice, and especially the presence (or absence) of internal emitter resistors tell a much clearer story than mass alone.


I’ll still log the weights of all the modules I test, though — it’s a good data point to have alongside teardown photos and load testing results.


Thanks for the reference and for sharing your experience.
Rich data like this really helps build a more complete picture.
 
Has anyone tried Thermaltrak transistors in stk replacements?

I made a few prototypes using surface mount components and put them in a little onkyo a25, I haven't done a ton of testing but the boards seem to work decently well, at least better than the originals thd wise.

The drivers hit around 180f when the amp is just below clipping into 4 ohms, they'd probably run cooler with 2oz copper and more vias.
If I made larger boards there'd be room for some actual heatsinks, the ones I made are pretty compact.
Bias increases ≈6mV (emitter to emitter) once the unit gets hot.20251210_142231.jpg20251210_142111.jpg
npn's were 6 months backordered when I made these hence the single thermaltrak.
 
Has anyone tried Thermaltrak transistors in stk replacements?

I made a few prototypes using surface mount components and put them in a little onkyo a25, I haven't done a ton of testing but the boards seem to work decently well, at least better than the originals thd wise.

The drivers hit around 180f when the amp is just below clipping into 4 ohms, they'd probably run cooler with 2oz copper and more vias.
If I made larger boards there'd be room for some actual heatsinks, the ones I made are pretty compact.
Bias increases ≈6mV (emitter to emitter) once the unit gets hot.View attachment 3694239View attachment 3694240
npn's were 6 months backordered when I made these hence the single thermaltrak.
That’s a very interesting approach, thanks for sharing the photos.


ThermalTrak devices actually make a lot of sense in STK-style replacements, especially from a bias stability standpoint. A ~6 mV emitter-to-emitter drift once fully heat-soaked is very well controlled, particularly under 4-ohm load near clipping.


The ~180°F driver temperature you’re seeing lines up pretty well with what I’d expect on compact boards without dedicated heatsinking. As you said, thicker copper and more vias would help, but board real estate is always the tradeoff when trying to stay within STK mechanical constraints.


What I find especially relevant here is that this highlights the difference between properly engineered STK replacements and what’s currently being sold as drop-in “reproductions.” Your design clearly addresses thermal tracking and bias behavior — which is exactly where many modern clones fall apart.


In my case, I’m documenting commercial STK1050 clones as-sold (including decaps and load testing), and then comparing them against properly designed discrete replacements. ThermalTrak-based solutions are definitely on my radar for future iterations, especially for 4-ohm stability.


Very nice work — this is exactly the kind of data-driven experimentation that keeps these old amplifiers alive.
 
Thanks for sharing this — that’s a very clean and sensible design.


It’s actually reassuring to hear that this STK journey really does go back almost a decade. That’s one of the reasons I think it’s still worth documenting what’s being sold today as “drop-in STK replacements,” especially now that many people assume these modules are equivalent to the original SANYO parts.


Your results at ±50 V into 4 ohms with Toshiba devices are impressive, especially the SMPTE IMD figure. Sub-90 dB residual on an Amber 3501 is nothing to dismiss at all — test equipment limits included


My motivation is slightly different, though. I’m intentionally testing current off-the-shelf STK clones as they are sold, without modification, in real amplifiers like the Onkyo A-44. The goal isn’t to prove that good STK-style designs are impossible — clearly they aren’t — but to show where modern commercial clones cut corners (especially missing emitter resistors, thermal design, and device matching).


Once that baseline is documented, I’ll be installing my own STK1050-style modules for comparison, including higher-power 4-ohm testing.


In any case, it’s great to see others who approached this from a proper engineering perspective rather than just “it works, ship it.”
Definitely still good enough for Rock’n’Roll — but it’s nice when it’s also good enough for the oscilloscope :)
To be clear, I did say that I tested the Liberty Electronics STKs in the unit, with 8 Ohm loads on a scope at full rated power. The waveforms looked great but I didn't bother to check the distortion, I was more concerned about longevity. It has been several years and I did not receive the unit back or any call with a complaint. Next time I use one of these modules I'll make distortion measurements and post the results. I don't get many units in with STKs in them.
 
I do want to try the discrete replacement parts but there is a substantial price difference and most of my customers who have units with STKs in them would not want to pay for the better replacements, especially because I would replace both modules with the discrete parts so they match.
 
Has anyone tried Thermaltrak transistors in stk replacements?

I made a few prototypes using surface mount components and put them in a little onkyo a25, I haven't done a ton of testing but the boards seem to work decently well, at least better than the originals thd wise.

The drivers hit around 180f when the amp is just below clipping into 4 ohms, they'd probably run cooler with 2oz copper and more vias.
If I made larger boards there'd be room for some actual heatsinks, the ones I made are pretty compact.
Bias increases ≈6mV (emitter to emitter) once the unit gets hot.View attachment 3694239View attachment 3694240
npn's were 6 months backordered when I made these hence the single thermaltrak.
Looking at the photo, I noticed a few design choices that I personally see as potential weaknesses (not trying to nitpick — just technical observations).


The two output transistors are mounted directly on the heatsink (with insulation), while the rest of the circuitry sits up on an FR-4 PCB. On that PCB you have the base resistors, bias network (trimmer + small SMD transistor + resistors), the two driver devices, and the emitter resistors in SMD form — which appear to be around 0.1 Ω.


My concern with this approach is thermal tracking and bias stability. In my experience, the most stable bias is achieved when all thermally relevant devices are on the same heatsink and as close to each other as possible — and that includes the driver transistors as well, not only the outputs. With the drivers and the bias-sensing device sitting on FR-4, they may run at a different temperature than the outputs, so the compensation may not track the actual junction temperatures accurately under load.


Also, from what I can see in the picture, the bias circuit uses an SMD transistor + pot + resistors, but I don’t see the usual dual diode / diode string arrangement that often ties into the bias transistor base (depending on topology). Maybe it’s implemented differently here, but at least visually it looks “simplified”.


Finally, the emitter resistors: 0.1 Ω and SMD packages may be on the light side, both in value (current sharing / SOA margin) and power rating, especially if the goal is reliable 4-ohm operation at higher output levels.


Again, not saying it can’t work — just pointing out why I would prefer tighter thermal coupling and more robust emitter resistors for long-term stability and survivability.
 
I do want to try the discrete replacement parts but there is a substantial price difference and most of my customers who have units with STKs in them would not want to pay for the better replacements, especially because I would replace both modules with the discrete parts so they match.
One important point I’d like to clarify is the load rating itself.


For STK1050 and STK0050, 8 ohms is not the nominal reference point. The original SANYO specification explicitly defines the operating load range as 4–16 Ω, which means 4 ohms is a fully specified, intended operating condition, not an edge case or abuse scenario.


Testing at 8 ohms is useful for basic functional verification, but it does not validate whether a replacement module truly meets the original device specification across its intended load range.


The second concern is system-level protection. Many amplifiers using these STKs — the Onkyo A-44 is a good example — do not include DC offset protection at the speaker outputs. They typically rely only on a turn-on / turn-off muting relay to suppress transients, without active DC detection.


As a result, if a replacement STK fails catastrophically under higher current stress (for example at 4 ohms, which again is within spec), DC can appear directly at the speaker terminals, potentially destroying speakers almost instantly.


This is why I focus not only on whether a module “works” under light conditions, but how it behaves near its specified operating limits, and—just as importantly—how it fails. In amplifiers without DC protection, failure mode matters as much as steady-state performance.
 
Has anyone tried Thermaltrak transistors in stk replacements?

I made a few prototypes using surface mount components and put them in a little onkyo a25, I haven't done a ton of testing but the boards seem to work decently well, at least better than the originals thd wise.

The drivers hit around 180f when the amp is just below clipping into 4 ohms, they'd probably run cooler with 2oz copper and more vias.
If I made larger boards there'd be room for some actual heatsinks, the ones I made are pretty compact.
Bias increases ≈6mV (emitter to emitter) once the unit gets hot.View attachment 3694239View attachment 3694240
npn's were 6 months backordered when I made these hence the single thermaltrak.
Here’s how I would explain my design choices:




In my own STK1050-style replacement, I deliberately went in a different direction regarding thermal coupling and bias control.


For the bias transistor, I chose a SOT-223 package instead of SOT-23, specifically to improve thermal coupling. With SOT-223, the collector tab allows a much larger copper area on the PCB, which significantly improves heat transfer and makes the bias tracking more representative of the actual output device temperature.


The PCB itself is not standard FR-4. It is built on a metal-core PCB, in my case with a copper base. The structure is similar to typical MCPCBs: a metal substrate, a thin electrically insulating but thermally conductive dielectric layer, and the copper circuit layer on top. This allows heat to spread laterally and vertically much more effectively than FR-4.


Because of this, all thermally relevant components — output transistors, driver transistors, bias transistor, and emitter resistors — are mounted on the same metal-core board, with minimal thermal distance between them. My goal here was to keep the entire bias loop exposed to the same thermal environment, rather than having part of it floating on a separate FR-4 board at a different temperature.


I also intentionally used larger, through-hole emitter resistors with higher power capability and slightly higher resistance value than what is often seen in compact SMD-based designs. This improves current sharing, SOA margin, and long-term reliability, especially for sustained 4-ohm operation.


This isn’t meant as criticism of other approaches — compact SMD designs can certainly work — but for me, prioritizing thermal consistency and bias stability was more important than minimizing board size or part count.


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Re ThermalTrak: I think anyone considering using them should look around for history of original-production amps that used them. I believe I can say that I have never worked on an amp using them that has NOT had a violent failure, often featuring flames. Now, it certainly could be that there are plenty of such amps that are working fine, and thus I don't see them. But I doubt it. The concept seems good, but I think the results for their application in audio amps are questionable.

(Ditto for Sanken STD series and - even worse, with internal emitter resistors - SAP series.)
 
Re ThermalTrak: I think anyone considering using them should look around for history of original-production amps that used them. I believe I can say that I have never worked on an amp using them that has NOT had a violent failure, often featuring flames. Now, it certainly could be that there are plenty of such amps that are working fine, and thus I don't see them. But I doubt it. The concept seems good, but I think the results for their application in audio amps are questionable.

(Ditto for Sanken STD series and - even worse, with internal emitter resistors - SAP series.)
I appreciate that perspective, and I don’t doubt your real-world service experience at all.


I think this highlights an important distinction between device concept and system-level implementation. ThermalTrak devices look attractive on paper because of the integrated temperature sensing, but in practice they tend to be used in amplifiers that already run close to the edge: high rails, high bias, minimal protection, and often aggressive SOA assumptions.


In many of the designs I’ve seen (and this also applies to some Sanken STD / SAP implementations), the problem doesn’t seem to be the transistor alone, but rather:


  • insufficient emitter resistance
  • optimistic bias settings
  • weak or absent output protection
  • and poor consideration of how the amplifier fails, not just how it performs when healthy

In an amplifier without DC protection, any fast or asymmetric failure — regardless of whether the device is ThermalTrak, STD, SAP, or conventional BJT — can turn violent very quickly.


That’s one reason I’m cautious about treating ThermalTrak as a “magic bullet.” Used conservatively, with adequate emitter resistors, sane bias, and proper thermal coupling, they can behave well — but when dropped into marginal designs, they seem to fail in a very unforgiving way, which matches what you’re describing.


So I wouldn’t argue that your observation is wrong. If anything, it reinforces the idea that failure behavior and system context matter more than the transistor family itself — especially in vintage audio amps with little or no protection.
 
That’s another important part of the context.


A lot of these devices — ThermalTrak, Sanken STD, SAP — were primarily developed for very high channel-density applications, where space is extremely limited and you need to fit 8, 9, or even 10 power amp channels into a single chassis. Typical examples are higher-end home theater receivers.


In that environment, the priorities are very different:


  • minimal board area
  • simplified assembly
  • tight thermal packing
  • and cost-controlled protection strategies

They are not optimized for the kind of single- or dual-channel, generously heatsinked, conservatively biased audio power amps that many vintage designs represent.


When devices designed for dense, highly integrated multi-channel layouts are dropped into older amplifiers with:


  • minimal protection
  • large shared heatsinks
  • and different thermal time constants

the failure modes can become much more dramatic — which lines up very well with the service experience you’re describing.


So again, I don’t see this as a contradiction. It reinforces the idea that context matters: a transistor that is “acceptable” in a tightly managed multi-channel environment can behave very badly when transplanted into a vintage topology with little margin and no DC protection.
 
Re ThermalTrak: I think anyone considering using them should look around for history of original-production amps that used them. I believe I can say that I have never worked on an amp using them that has NOT had a violent failure, often featuring flames. Now, it certainly could be that there are plenty of such amps that are working fine, and thus I don't see them. But I doubt it. The concept seems good, but I think the results for their application in audio amps are questionable.

(Ditto for Sanken STD series and - even worse, with internal emitter resistors - SAP series.)

From what I have read the early production thermaltraks had issues with the integrated diode.

If that diode goes open it can switch the amp into class A bias depending on the bias circuit used, In most amps this should just blow the fuses after a minute or so.

I assume that a lot of the amps that used the thermaltraks were "high current" amplifiers with oversized fuses, power ratings into <3 ohms, and no current limiting on the outputs.

Combine that with faulty thermaltraks the amps will think they are running at max power when they are really nuking every component connected to the output stage.

I'm not excusing onsemi, the Thermaltraks clearly needed more work before they were put onto the market.


Back on the topic of replacement stks I'm mainly interested in trying to make boards with nothing more than the output transistors mounted directly to the heatsink, obviously that doesn't seem possible without compromises of some sort or the use of exotic/non-standard components that may be obsolete in 10 years, but it is fun to experiment.

I do already know all the issues with my design, I was just interested in testing it as is, also if anyone else has tried thermaltraks in Stk alternatives.

Also there's nothing wrong with 100 milliohm emitter resistors as long as the bias is stable and the outputs are well matched, I went low resistance to allow the use of 3 watt emitter resistors.
 
From what I have read the early production thermaltraks had issues with the integrated diode.

If that diode goes open it can switch the amp into class A bias depending on the bias circuit used, In most amps this should just blow the fuses after a minute or so.

I assume that a lot of the amps that used the thermaltraks were "high current" amplifiers with oversized fuses, power ratings into <3 ohms, and no current limiting on the outputs.

Combine that with faulty thermaltraks the amps will think they are running at max power when they are really nuking every component connected to the output stage.

I'm not excusing onsemi, the Thermaltraks clearly needed more work before they were put onto the market.


Back on the topic of replacement stks I'm mainly interested in trying to make boards with nothing more than the output transistors mounted directly to the heatsink, obviously that doesn't seem possible without compromises of some sort or the use of exotic/non-standard components that may be obsolete in 10 years, but it is fun to experiment.

I do already know all the issues with my design, I was just interested in testing it as is, also if anyone else has tried thermaltraks in Stk alternatives.

Also there's nothing wrong with 100 milliohm emitter resistors as long as the bias is stable and the outputs are well matched, I went low resistance to allow the use of 3 watt emitter resistors.

That’s a fair point, and I largely agree with the concerns around how these devices have been used historically.


One thing I would add is that STD / ThermalTrak–type devices were primarily developed for very dense, multi-channel layouts, where space is limited and thermal behavior is tightly managed at the system level. When they’re pushed hard, biased aggressively, or dropped into vintage amplifiers with little or no protection, the failure modes can indeed be quite dramatic.


That’s also why, if someone is interested in this general direction, I would strongly recommend a conservative implementation, rather than treating these devices as a drop-in upgrade.


For that reason, I’ve been working on my own STD-based discrete STK replacement modules, designed specifically for:


  • moderate rail voltages
  • adequate emitter resistance
  • conservative biasing
  • and predictable failure behavior

The goal is not to extract maximum power density, but to achieve stable operation and long-term reliability in older amplifiers that were never designed around modern protection schemes.


Nem javasolnám ezt a megközelítést minden alkalmazáshoz, de azok számára, akik már az STD-alapú kimeneteket próbálják ki, és egy szabályozott, szolgáltatásbarát megvalósítást szeretnének , ez egy ésszerű alternatíva lehet.

I should also clarify one important detail.


This STD-based version was originally developed by me specifically as an STK1050 / STK0050 discrete replacement, not as a general-purpose STD output module. One of the advantages of this approach is its compact size — it fits into very limited spaces — and the fact that the bias control network can be kept relatively simple, which is attractive from both a layout and service perspective.


At the same time, this approach has its own downside, and it’s important to be honest about it:
original STD devices are already becoming difficult to source, and if that trend continues, a failed module years down the line could face the same long-term serviceability problem that originally motivated STK replacements in the first place.


So while this STD-based solution can make sense technically — especially where space, thermal behavior, and conservative biasing are priorities — it is not a universal or future-proof answer. In that sense, it shares some of the same lifecycle risks as the original STK modules it was designed to replace.


Because of that, I see it as one possible option, not a blanket recommendation, and something that should be chosen with a clear understanding of both its strengths and its long-term limitations.
 

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