Thorens TD224 trials, tribulations and success!

I'm grateful for all the suggestions but, sadly the outer part of the item is missing, so it can;t be scanned or printed. Equally, I checked with Schopper in Switzerland and they have no drawings of it for it to be replicated.

I think it's just going to be a long waiting game....
 
I'm grateful for all the suggestions but, sadly the outer part of the item is missing, so it can;t be scanned or printed. Equally, I checked with Schopper in Switzerland and they have no drawings of it for it to be replicated.

I think it's just going to be a long waiting game....

Bummer!


Ben
 
I’ve been using it a lot since I set it up last week. Seems to be reliable. Hasn’t skipped a beat. To celebrate I ordered a new stylus from LP Gear.
 
I'm grateful for all the suggestions but, sadly the outer part of the item is missing, so it can;t be scanned or printed. Equally, I checked with Schopper in Switzerland and they have no drawings of it for it to be replicated.

I’d still like to see a picture of the part if it’s convenient.
 
I'm grateful for all the suggestions but, sadly the outer part of the item is missing, so it can;t be scanned or printed. Equally, I checked with Schopper in Switzerland and they have no drawings of it for it to be replicated.

I think it's just going to be a long waiting game....
 
maybe someone who has a complete unit would be willing to pop that part out so it could be measured?
 
I’ll try to keep this under a million words.

For the longest time I have wanted a TD224. I just liked the old technology that went into it and having a very unique record changer. Found one that I was told was working but of course it was being sold as a repair. It came to me in good condition and sort of worked but needed some attention that I felt confident I could do. Downloaded a service manual and went to work. Let me say here that I had no idea what I was getting myself into. It is unlike any other turntable I have worked on and I have worked on quit a few. The manual wasn't very helpful because I think the publisher assumed those that would use it had some familiarity with the TD224 which I didn’t.
During my many, many and many more hours of the repair sessions and many google searches to get some informative help I was told that Thorens had to put together a full time staff just to do the warranty work and I’m not surprised. That is why they only made 4000. The TD224s are in my opinion very temperamental and getting one function to work properly may mpact another function and that other function once adjusted will impact something else. Well, after countless hours working and learning on it I have gotten all functions to work. It picks up and delivers the records in both directions and the platter speed is very stable. The biggest challenge was to get it to completely shut off after the last record finished playing. How long is it going to stay this way? I have no idea but I do know that if anything goes wrong I will know what to do about it. I’m a self actualized expert.
I will be posting a video in a couple of days if anyone is interest in seeing it go through it’s paces.

Now playing on it
Herman’s Hermits - on tour. John Fogerty's - Center Field waiting to be picked up and set on the platter.
hello very nice , i just got one as well i have to rewire the tone arm and and change old wire on the contact din 5 pin any picture of your restauration process like you say is hard to get info on that one so i look ,at every option i can get looking for electric schematic for it to
 
Old thread restoration….
I picked up a 224 with high hopes about a year ago. I have a friend who does a lot of work on Thorens 124’s and asked him to take a look at it….alas finding any parts seems impossible!
I am at a quandary about what to do… he suggests selling it for parts.
Anyone else here in the same situation?
 
Old thread restoration….
I picked up a 224 with high hopes about a year ago. I have a friend who does a lot of work on Thorens 124’s and asked him to take a look at it….alas finding any parts seems impossible!
I am at a quandary about what to do… he suggests selling it for parts.
Anyone else here in the same situation?
Let me start by saying just because someone can repair a TD124 they will be able to repair a TD224. Not true! They are completely different machines. The only thing they have in common is the motor, idler wheel spinning the platter and the platter itself.
The broken TD224 I purchased several years ago and got working was a real challenge. i really like record changers and was determined to get it working. It was complete but I knew nothing about repairing one but with a service manual i got from HiFi engine figured it out. It took me hours and hours and hours to do so along with a couple of parts i had to fabricate and a local machine shop to repair a broken one. Its been playing records for me the last several years. Love it!
 
I always wanted one at first. But after I saw one at a CES show in Chicago one year and heard one with a full range system I said no way, To many arm compromises and the unit was basically a rumble machine in disguise. It was even worse than a TD 124. So I have been happy with my TD125 over the past 50 years or so. I thought about a new SL 1300 but a friend got one and I am glad I didn't waste that much money. I bought more Lp's instead from Acoustic Sounds and the master series from DGG. Looking forward to the new Phillips and Decca analog Lp's also just becoming available!
 
I always wanted one at first. But after I saw one at a CES show in Chicago one year and heard one with a full range system I said no way, To many arm compromises and the unit was basically a rumble machine in disguise. It was even worse than a TD 124. So I have been happy with my TD125 over the past 50 years or so. I thought about a new SL 1300 but a friend got one and I am glad I didn't waste that much money. I bought more Lp's instead from Acoustic Sounds and the master series from DGG. Looking forward to the new Phillips and Decca analog Lp's also just becoming available!

I read somewhere that Thorens had so many under warranty repairs for the 224 they had to create a department just for them. The cost was substantial so they stopped making them. Only made about 4000 from 1957 to 1968
 
I’ve got a whole bunch of parts for a TD-224, actually I’ve got two TD-224s (non were working) and a box of spare parts. What I don’t have and what I can’t find is this one gear, I think the same gear missing in this thread. Let us know though what you need, it’s possible I can help you out.

I have a 3D printer so if this gear ever shows up it would be possible to scan and print a bunch, though I don’t know if plastic would hold up or not.
 
If the original gear blew up, fair bet its zinc / pot metal which is not exactly the toughest thing around. Worst case if it could be 3d printed, that could be used for a mold pattern to pour one in aluminum. That melts at low enough temps that people do hobby foundry work and you might be able to find someone willing to cast them for you. There are some particulars about shrinkage with casting so the 3d print may need to be scaled up slightly to allow for this. I know just enough about casting to know that there is a ton I don't know about casting but it seems to me it shouldn't be a huge ordeal to scale up a 3d print to make a suitable mold pattern.
 
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