Weird phenomenon with my wife

I'm absolutely the wrong person to explain either, but effectively gamelan is a balinese music genre that uses bitonality. As far as I understand, each gamelan group is tuned differently. Within each group, instruments are tuned in a 'male' and 'female' group, and don't share notes. The notes are chosen based on the desired dissonance between the male and female instruments.

Because its not a form of music that's written down, or very well understood, and on top of all that, completely different from one gamelan orchestra to another, there are a significant group of people who don't think gamelan really is music or based on anything worth analysis in a musical context. Arguably, because once you start to consider it, gamelan challenges almost every aspect of what we consider music. Again, I'm not an expert nor really worthy of making these claims.
 
Yeah, made by musicians in Java. There are actually a decent number of Gamelan orchestras in the US and Europe, but I believe pretty much all their instruments are still from Java. There's a good deal of Gamelan influence in classical music around 1900, most notably Debussy but also by others.
 
I listen to a lot of Neo-Psychedelia and it's something of a trend to mix tracks within a song out of phase, to give an other-worldly sound. It drives my partner, whose hearing is largely intact at 53, utterly crazy- she says it makes her ears hurt.
 
Gigantic said:
I listen to a lot of Neo-Psychedelia and it's something of a trend to mix tracks within a song out of phase, to give an other-worldly sound. It drives my partner, whose hearing is largely intact at 53, utterly crazy- she says it makes her ears hurt.
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Do you like Phaser pedals? Those are some of the neatest toys to play with!

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Mr Boochie said:
Do you like Phaser pedals? Those are some of the neatest toys to play with!

:thumbsup:
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only in certain circumstances. I like them more for vibrato-esque sounds, than for the thin, flanger-like tones. I had a Boss phaser on my board in the 90's (my "board" back then was mostly a rack system, but IIRC, I had the phaser, (no idea on the model, it was green) and a ProCo Rat, the rest of it was an Alesis Multiverb, a Yamaha Reverb/Delay & a BBE Sonic Exciter, into a '64 Fender Tremolux with a '59 blonde tolex 2-12 and a Peavey 1-15 cabinet. I still have a BBE and a 1-15 in my rig, but I'm mainly pedals these days, with a semi-ridiculous board.
 
Gigantic said:
only in certain circumstances. I like them more for vibrato-esque sounds, than for the thin, flanger-like tones. I had a Boss phaser on my board in the 90's (my "board" back then was mostly a rack system, but IIRC, I had the phaser, (no idea on the model, it was green) and a ProCo Rat, the rest of it was an Alesis Multiverb, a Yamaha Reverb/Delay & a BBE Sonic Exciter, into a '64 Fender Tremolux with a '59 blonde tolex 2-12 and a Peavey 1-15 cabinet. I still have a BBE and a 1-15 in my rig, but I'm mainly pedals these days, with a semi-ridiculous board.
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Green BOSS PH-3. They are the best, in my humble opinion. My 1962 Pro (6G5-A) has the three-tube vibrato channel. Surf City!

I used one and a Chorus Flanger to try to get that "Carlos" tone for the middle part (1:20) of this tune. It's sometimes fun to play around with pedals.

Europa.
Off Santana's "Amigos." CBS-Sony SOPO 117. CBS-Sony pressing (Japan) 1976.
Run-out: SOPO 117A4 1 A 16
 
doctor fuse said:
Well don’t stop there. Go for the 10 hours version (good for insomnia). :D

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Igor liked to talk. No?

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It's interesting that this conversation about precise pitch is in a forum about such an imprecise reproduction system. Lathe quality, TT drive, record centering and warping, and whatever else makes it inherently imperfect.
 
For what it is worth. I read in relationship to AR ES-1 belt drives you place the belt in a bag with a bit of talcum powder and shake before installing.
I believe the Merrill web site was the source. I will hazard a guess that it removes any tackiness the belt may have. Which I suppose could effect speed slightly.
My memory and speculations, use for what that's worth !
 
Aerobat said:
It's interesting that this conversation about precise pitch is in a forum about such an imprecise reproduction system. Lathe quality, TT drive, record centering and warping, and whatever else makes it inherently imperfect.
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It makes sense, come to think of it. An imprecise reproduction system is more likely to bother you when you have perfect pitch. :biggrin:
 
AR was the source of the talcum powder suggestion. A slight bit of slipperiness allows the pulley to slip while the motor gets going. And, I'm guessing, once the platter is going at speed, the slipperiness allows the motor/belt to ignore the slight drag caused by large groove modulations, rather than oscillate, undershooting then overshooting and repeating, as the belt stretches and snaps back.
 
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