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Black Music Vs. White Music.
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mg196
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I think you are right and I think you are wrong. What do I mean?
Music can't really be described in broad strokes, but I would have to say the essence of your statement is correct in my view. Just look at the difference between "black" and "white" church choirs! Gospel has obviously had a tremendous effect on the "black" music of the 20th Century, with the Blues, R&B and Soul music its obvious children.
It was the "White" perspective which took those musical tastes and gave us Rock and Roll as we know it today, thought the first Rock 'N Roll record is generally credited to Ike Turner (Rocket 88).
I think white and black musicians have been feeding off eachother for more than 100 years, and it is different histories that have shaped their music.
Music can't really be described in broad strokes, but I would have to say the essence of your statement is correct in my view. Just look at the difference between "black" and "white" church choirs! Gospel has obviously had a tremendous effect on the "black" music of the 20th Century, with the Blues, R&B and Soul music its obvious children.
It was the "White" perspective which took those musical tastes and gave us Rock and Roll as we know it today, thought the first Rock 'N Roll record is generally credited to Ike Turner (Rocket 88).
I think white and black musicians have been feeding off eachother for more than 100 years, and it is different histories that have shaped their music.
Justen
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Johnny said:
Man, so do I! The dancing banana is WAY better than me
!!!But I do think that cultural differences influence music- but the brush can be much broader, or much narrower. German music is much different than American music which is much different than Indian music. Southern rock is different than Northern rock music. Delta Jazz is different than New Orleans. The list can go on and on, why deeper than just black and white.
Drybasement
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pen_man said:
The answer to that can be found in Grumpy's sig.
It was Duke Ellington.
Drybasement
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clint e. said:
While it's true that Jazz and Blues has it's roots in African-American culture I don't consider music a "black or white" thing. What I hear are talented musicians making great sounds that I love.
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foetusized
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Another issue is how the music industry (and the music press, following their lead) segregates music. For the most part, "black music" by black musicians is marketed to black audiences (under the "urban" euphimism), and "white music" by white musicians is marketed to white audiences. 80 some years after Bix Beiderbeck, 40 years after Civil Rights laws changed in the American South, this shouldn't be happening.
Sure, there are exceptions, but such examples as Living Colour playing hard rock and The Beastie Boys rapping have been promoted as something odd with novelty value by the music industry, instead of just accepted for what they are -- Foe
Sure, there are exceptions, but such examples as Living Colour playing hard rock and The Beastie Boys rapping have been promoted as something odd with novelty value by the music industry, instead of just accepted for what they are -- Foe
Justen
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Sandy G said:
Thats putting it mildly! Fred and Gene are our rare exceptions...possibly you are as well! But I figured if we were painting with broad strokes, I'd lump us altogether. You know, stereotyping! Its funny how it is basically okay to do it to ourselves, but when others do it its not so funny. Fer example, you and I are allowed to make all the dumb southern redneck jokes we want!
mg196
Johnny Thunders - LAMF
foetusized said:
I think while that is 100% valid for Living Colour, the Beasties are a different story. When they first came out in '87 with "License to Ill," they WERE treated as a novelty by both the industry and the entire rap world. However, it didn't take long for other rap acts at the time to embrace them for what they really were - rappers. And once they got the nod from their peers, the wider white AND black audiences embraced them.
