Sansui 5000x install new F-6013 Boards help

Thanks for the correction, so that is not how the provided schematic was reflected. It said Pin 3 - Blue , Pin 4 - Black.
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So my coloring on my output is like schematic below. Not sure but this was from a 5000x with F-1040 boards. And on the original 1040 boards it has it going top down CEB, which is red,blue, black.

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Now we just need Bozoro to confirm this is accurate as it might help future people who are going to be using these boards.
 
If you are interested, I figured out why your Bias would not dial in. The board house, when they populated the Surface Mount Resistors, got a resistor wrong. Not all boards have the issue as I have some here that is correct and some that have the wrong resistor. You have to look at the resistor in question to verify if yours is wrong. They got a few .68 ohm in where it should be 680 ohm. Look at R811 right next to pin 12. If it says R680, that means it's a .68 ohm and will need changing. You'll have to look at it under magnification. I'll give anybody affected the option of returning the boards for a 5 minute resistor swap, or, I can send you the resistors to fix it yourself, or I can send out new boards. I'll pay for shipping both ways, or you can return the boards for a full refund. That's what I get for trying to keep the price lower than the through hole boards. It looks like everything else is fine so it's your choice. PM or email me. The sets we tested and installed worked great, and sounded great as the only difference is the resistors. I must have gotten lucky during testing and I had the correct resistors on the boards I used and a couple other guys who installed them got lucky also.

It only took 5 minutes to find the issue. I had Zekeman send his wacky boards to me and as soon as I got them on the bench this morning, I went straight to the Pin 12 circuit and with the aid of a magnifying glass, it was evident he got a .68 ohm, and I'm sure Miguel has the same issue.
 
And, what makes that a challenge is having learned decades ago the resistor color code chart never bothered to investigate the SMD component markings. Who would think R680 did not mean 680 ohm as shown on the schematic instead of 0.68 ohm grrrrr.
Well done sir.
 
plyzo said:
So besides the Collector not being a hole but actually the can, the color wires are accurate, correct?
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I've seen the wires both colors, that's what I was trying to tell you. Tear the old out, and wire point to point by the skizmo.
 
bonzoro said:
I've seen the wires both colors, that's what I was trying to tell you. Tear the old out, and wire point to point by the skizmo.
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I am sorry but when did you tell me that? That the color wires could actual be different.
Anyway, is this accurate regardless of the color wires, that each is going to the appropriate area?

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If you go back and read, I told you I saw them wired several ways. And, I took those wire colors off my Test Mule. I rewired it though. Crappy wire.
 
bonzoro said:
If you go back and read, I told you I saw them wired several ways. And, I took those wire colors off my Test Mule. I rewired it though. Crappy wire.
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I feel it is important to say this.
Never trust on colors of wires or even on schematic.
First verify with your own eyes that wires are connected to where they should be and have a certain color. Then you can use this to complete installation.
That is the reason experienced people say: " check, check, be sure".
Silly thing is that in this case it was something you could not have found easily.
Hope it is solved now and someone can enjoy this receiver soon!
 
GrisPato said:
I feel it is important to say this.
Never trust on colors of wires or even on schematic.
First verify with your own eyes that wires are connected to where they should be and have a certain color. Then you can use this to complete installation.
That is the reason experienced people say: " check, check, be sure".
Silly thing is that in this case it was something you could not have found easily.
Hope it is solved now and someone can enjoy this receiver soon!
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Well said. I did verify because on the F-1040 boards it’s marked as ECB and I looked at wires going to Outputs so I knew colors were correct.
 
Good afternoon

I have a question just to confirm the wiring and I am including two pictures that show the wires coming off of the positive filter, caps numbers, C005 and C006 (a red and orange wire coming through the floor of the receiver). These wires are connected to the collector on one of the output transistors for each channel. Additionally, this collector is also connected to each of the driver boards as well. My question is, should the wires coming through the floor of the receiver off of C005 and C006 be connected directly to the new boards at connection point numbers five? Or leave them wired the way they are which is from the factory. See pics. Arrow shows where they come through the floor.
 

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Zekeman said:
Good afternoon

I have a question just to confirm the wiring and I am including two pictures that show the wires coming off of the positive filter, caps numbers, C005 and C006 (a red and orange wire coming through the floor of the receiver). These wires are connected to the collector on one of the output transistors for each channel. Additionally, this collector is also connected to each of the driver boards as well. My question is, should the wires coming through the floor of the receiver off of C005 and C006 be connected directly to the new boards at connection point numbers five? Or leave them wired the way they are which is from the factory. See pics. Arrow shows where they come through the floor.
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IMHO, it doesn’t really matter as they both work. Mine from factory had them go to the boards. Yours seems to have them straight to collector.
 
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