Speaker cables - I share this at great peril

JSanders2056 said:
Isn't Bowling Green the town where everyone owns a Corvette? :bowdown:
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I don't know about everyone, but they are made there, and there is the museum and track. You seem them so much it makes them less special to me anyway. They are nice to look at. They are used in the parades downtown every year. Got numerous pics of them. Been to the museum nearly 10 times.
 
onanysunday said:
The plenum grade FEP/teflon insulation types mentioned in this thread (dielectric constant 2.1 vs. 3.5 for typical PVC) is going to offer best-in-class performance in terms of having the least interaction/ loss of the signal passing next to it regarding its lower dielectric figures (constant, loss, absorption). Individually insulated conductors of all these Cat cables is of course another advantage to using them for a cleaner/ purer signal and will give you performance somewhat similar to kimber kable. You can also choose between solid core or stranded types, some of which use annealed conductors which are even better. Of course, always choose real copper over CCA types when given the choice. I've also been surprised at the quality of the audio signal passing through regular Cat5 insulated in PVC when used as speaker cable. The gauge is too anemic for bi-wiring a speaker with unless you go with the thicker "bundled" 25 pair variety of Cat cable, but it's cheap when purchased as leftover spools online.

* Here's an example how I made bi-wired speaker cables using the much thicker "bundled" Cat5 type by assigning them to both the High and Low sections of the speaker binding posts. I also assigned white, red, black, yellow and violet to Positive. It worked out beautifully, but there's no room for error if you get any of the polarities wrong.

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Man, I LOVE the technical approach you have applied here. Thank you!
audiotemp said:
IME, that is not at all unusual. I use fairly ordinary stranded copper cables. But I'm happy that you're hearing new things and using whatever is working for you in your system. :)
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No, of course it isn't. You are right, and I've heard countless systems do this, many of them my own systems.
These speakers can do it, and they can do it with the old cord I was using. But the level of separation and precise nature tells me these new cables were a good investment.

I hear it from the first note, everything seems more "in it's own lane" kind of thing.

Have I mentioned just how many studio tricks I now hear? I bet I've listened to Willie Nelson's "Stardust" at least 200 times. I heard some new stuff in that old chestnut I had never heard. A cough Willie threw aside. Trigger's tuning pegs vibrating (guitarists know what I mean with old classical style guitars) and buzzing slightly. It's just weird-good.

I'm not advocating everyone run out and buy new cables, nor throw away their lamp cord.

Thanks for your very kind words!
peterp1 said:
I swear I am not trying to open up a dumpster fire by mentioning bi-wire, but if you like the difference with the speaker cables and have 2-way speakers with separate hi/lo binding posts, you might want to ask him to build you a bi-wire set.
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The pair of cables I ordered arrived today. This weekend, we'll have a chance to do just that with my Infinity Modulus. We'll also A/B with what I got on them now, which is pretty lousy stuff.
shelly_d said:
@onwardjames: In your opening post, you stated you swapped out both the amp and speaker cables. Did you compare the the old and new cables to each other using the new amp? Either change in your system can change what you are hearing.

Just a thought.

Shelly_D
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Shelly, you're correct, and yes, there might be something to that. I could be wrong, and I freely admit so. But I've also got a good amount of time with this Adcom. Thinking I might build a Zobel for this, because that pop upon powering on is troubling.
ohm470k said:
Fellow Kentuckian and have lived in B.G. Went to WKU. Now I live in Franklin just south of you. Good to see a guy here.
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DUDE, I work at Franklin Parks/Rec!!! Look for the night guy, that's me M-TH. Invitation is open to you as well, sir.
JSanders2056 said:
Isn't Bowling Green the town where everyone owns a Corvette? :bowdown:
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Yuck. Yep. All the old farts and old farts' wives. Seriously, I'd buy a Corvette, but then I might become a Corvette owner. They're........well, some of them....are douchey.
 
Mr Boochie said:
That is the problem. The higher the resolution, the more apparent dandruff, pimples, and blemishes become.

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I don't see clarity as a problem. But then again, I worked in radio, once had my own recording studio, and actually enjoy the warts n all approach.

I find those songs with intro/outro banter so amusing. These are not robots, (well....used to not be) these are PEOPLE with extraordinary talent.
 
soundmig said:
All this reminds me of a Genetic Biology Lab class that I had in College. We had stereo microscopes for characterizing phenotypes of fruit flies. Some people could see a 3D image in them and some simply could not. If you don't hear it (or see it) don't get mad at those who do - we are all different. Enough said.
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Way back when, I worked for Sperry on Long Island. It was a huge company -6k employees at the time- and had its Dr and nurse. They did standard stuff like handling any injuries but also hearing and vision tests.

One of the tests involved looking down into some sort of machine for testing depth perception. A target was supposed to look like it was standing up above all the others.
I saw nothing. Absolute flatness.
This caused the Dr great concern. Me, not so much. I knew I saw 3D.
So they sent me to a specialist off-site. He told me that some people don't perceive depth when using that device and that I was fine.
When I went back to the company Dr and tried the machine again, a very small change in the position of my head suddenly made the targets pop out of the background.
 
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Do you see depth? Now, close one eye.
 
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