I had posted a comment about the size/rating of the large inductor, and found by actually checking that I was wrong; edited it with the "brain f@rt" comment... sorry about silliness and misunderstanding.
Yes, the Forte I seems a pretty simple diagram, compared to the ALKs and newer iterations of speakers.
I might have questions about calculating crossover specs for 3-way speakers with multiple woofers soon, but it's all in the pondering stage at this point...
I have actually thought about a "Double Forte" with the cabinets stacked, one upside down. Better yet with a new cabinet same dimensions as the two combined but with the drivers mounted on 12in side of the cabinet so it would be longer depth wise. Some would say then it wouldn't be a Forte anymore as some say now after the mods I have done. Still I wonder what double Fortes would be like not that I need them as I have plenty of volume sound wise but I like the thought of the efficiency doubling for even lower power use.
Hi set 12,
http://www.jantzen-audio.com/download/Jantzen Audio Crossovers.pdf
http://www.jantzen-audio.com/download/Jantzen%20Audio%20Crossovers.pdf
If the link doesn't work: Go Google, write " jantzen klipsh forte". It's:"Jantzen Audio - Klipsch Forte Crossover Rebuild By Jake Montzingo"
I did see the article once before and just read over it. Interesting how while there were improvements which I would expect. They did not nearly sound as great as the ones I did like this statement from AKer SWL3600 who BTW own's several sub woofers.
But really its the whole system that counts stock Fortes are not even close to doing what Scott experienced below. It takes a more serious approach then just using average good replacement parts.
SET12 here on the forum has some Forte's that will blow you away.
A pair of DIY SET mono-blocks (10 wpc) and modified outboard crossovers that take the Forte's to another level of performance.....and then some.
A huge soundstage, imaging at it's best and powerful.......I mean powerful bass that is subsonic perfection. The "Jackhammer" like bass is like no other Forte I've ever heard. These amps have serious power. They ooze all the wonderful tube qualities but with muscle that controls the low end with authority.
If you're ever in his neck of the woods, listening to his system is a real treat. Klipsch owner or not......his system demands respect. Dan is a gentleman with wisdom that he's eager to share. Great guy.......great experience. Thanks Dan.
-Scott
thank you for all links.
For points, my floor is tiled. so hard. this is why I thought of Soundcare superspikes.
I looked at retail sites in France and in Europe and I can not find 0.16 and 3.0 mh in AWG12.
I can not buy in the U.S. because of the weight.
I'll still try to look.
therefore the self-train is not a priority?( I understood?), I would first change the capacitors, air core inductors and diaph titanium and I suppose the internal cables.
for inductors, there is there a difference between the solen litz (stranded)( like Brinkman) and other (monofilament)?, I read that you'd prefer the far north creek monofilament.
My drive is a consonance cd2.2 tweaked and amp tubes consonance ref 5.0 with 300B, synergistic research interconnects looking glass and speaker cable Van den Hul Magnum Hybrid.
my Forte is 1 foot in front of the wall, the left does not have a corner because the wall is open and the right one is 1 foot from a corner
thanks
For points I still would use the coaster with the points as this would protect your floors.
Its hard to search Europe from the US I would think there are suppliers.
But I did come up with this
http://www.hificollective.co.uk/components/mundorf_aircoils.html
I also saw this comment
"For the larger diameter wire coils where baked varnish is not a option, Mundorf will "vacuum impregnate" your coils for an additional charge of £13.10 + vat. per coil. You can select this treatment to be applied to your coils when you make your order. Click HERE! to find out more."
"Vacuum Impregnation" this what I would get done I would highly recommend at least 12AWG and 10AWG if possible.
If you have to, give them a call I would think they could do a special .16mH wind for you.
Yes your set up could be better, but I understand space can be an issue. To have an open wall with full corners really opens up the space. Even if your in a situation like I am with my wife and sharing a living room that is used for TV viewing amongst other things.
One observation that I have had is that even with the modified Forte's the imaging is so large and so well defined it seems to make little difference even with all the stuff between the Fortes as pictured, its as though the stuff is not even there. The system just produces an image wall to wall and beyond as well as floor to ceiling sound. I suspect symmetrical room placement goes a long way in the evenness of the image especially spacial ques for a rooms recorded size. If I was using an open ended corner there would be a suck out of those ques on one side. I know this as when I moved in to my current residence I set the system up on the opposite wall which had an open corner which was not the same in my previous setup with full corners. The open space 4.5ft the corners is a big help I beleive as lateral imaging can extend several feet beyond the side walls. Its an experience to hear this as Scott above mentions.
Hopefully some time will be available soon to modify my Fortes. Boxes at upper right are the Titanium midrange.
I'm looking forward to it. BTW what has been your expense so far and did you get 12AWG or 10AWG inductors?
SET12